Thanks to everyone, especially those who contributed to this thread.
No, I don't think I will be in Shanghai these two weeks. In fact , the last time I was in Shanghai was about 10 years ago.

Here is a scientific equipment with a Seagull DFAB attached to it. I don't think I posted this image before. Na interesting fact is that it was produced in an old factory that was founded  by Nikon once belong to him. This factory produced several optical instruments during the WWII.
Cheers,

Zhang

 

 

Bellows camera

It looks like a modified Russian bellows to me, or one can make a camera like this with a bellows? What is the film size?

Will, do you happen to know what kind of wood was used for those LF wooden cameras? Some antique hard wood furniture are very expensive these days.

 

Here is an image of a popular Huaxia 823 range finder with a fixed 40/2 lens that is a copy of Leitz Summicron 40/2, once used in Leica CL. I think the lens quality is close to the original as it is comparable to my Canon FD 50/1.8. Huaxia series has 821,822,823,841 models. This 823 model has a multiple exposure feature. The earliest model is a Lark 821, and it is a collectible camera for limited production numbers

 

 

 

There is a Red Flag Hasselblad copy for sale.
Very nice camera, a little bit expensive though...

 

 

 

 

 

Waw! I regret let go a NIB Dong Feng for RMB 9,000. That guy has quite a few rare items.

Dong Feng 120 SLR has many versions, black, white,... and only a few dozen cameras were made. It has a top speed of 1/1000 for a leaf shutter.
The last auction record that I remember was RMB 130,000 a few years ago.

 

Correct. That is a "East Wind".

In a previous sheet I have shown an earlier version of this same camera.

 

See ….. http://www.novacon.com.br/odditycameras/hongqi.htm

I have found a 16mm 1:1.6 lens. Not sure what it is for. It has a M35 thread mount. Maybe for a vedio camera? It focuses from 0.3m to infinate. ALso found two more early anamorphic lenses without marking of manufacturer and S/N. Another image is a very well made Chinese polarizing microscope by a military factory for military use. Quality and finish of these items are a notch above civilian products.

Cheers,

Zhang

 

 

 

The missile lens could be a 1700mm F8 optic so that it could not compare with the Zeiss 1700/4. The problem is that the the image plane is too close to the lens barrel so that a major modification is required. Then what am I going to shoot with it? Yes, I could attach a digital P/S to the eye piece.

Do you happen to know the price of that 1700/4 monster? A similar ex-military US missile lens like mine could sell for about 20K.

Cheers,

Zhang

Rolex in 1950-60's was not that expensive. They cost only a few hundred RMBs. But an ounce of 24K gold was only 90 RMB in late 50's.

A fake Rolex can be found for 50-60 RMB right now in Beijing's flea market, and no one buys them. I have one for a laugh. It has a gold plated Miyota type automatic movement with hacking feature, and an interesting dial. I PSed a little bit of the dial to rescue it from an ugly fake.

 

 

 

For a change, here are a few rare vintage Chinese mechanical lady watches. They all have a Chinese 17j, 19j and 24j movements. I bet no one has seen them before. They are not that common even in China. These were made since 1959(Shanghai A592).

 

 

  

 

 

 

I found a book that listed Chinese cine equipment. There are 11 types of 35mm movie cameras and 4 types of 16mm movie cameras. This SX16K was made by Linxia Sine Equipment Research Institute. It shoots at 6-144 frames/second, and is powered by a 27V battery. At 6-48 frames, the stability is within 0.01mm, and at 48-120 frames, it is within 0.02mm. I don't know much about movie cameras, but it looks like a high quality camera.

China also made 18 models of 35mm and 19 models of 16mm projection cameras plus many 8.75mm projection cameras, accessory lenses and related equipments. This area of Chinese optical industry was never mentioned before.

 

wonder where on earth he found so many rare, expensive items? The brand name for the Hasselblad copy is Dong Feng (east wind). Only some 90 cameras were made IIRC.

I would like to sell a few "rare" birds to him if he could even pay half of the selling price. No, on a second thought, I would rather keep them as an investment.

Cheers,

Zhang

A GSS-35 made by Gangsu Optical Instruments factory. Arris mount, shoots at 50-300 frames/ second, powered by 220V AC motor at 10,000 r/minute. Weights 38 KGs.

SKK 35-120 X ray high speed 35mm movie camera made by Linxia Research Institute. Special fixed prime lens 57mm F 1:0.85, shoots at 12-120 frames/second, and the frame stability at 120 frames/second is within 0.012mm. Weight 7 KGs. This one looks like another high quality camera, but I have no images of both cameras. I wonder what the 57mm F1:0.85 lens looks like?

Zhang

 

I found this image of the very 1st Panda 135mm SLR made in 1973 with a s/n of 730001! There were only about 1,000 cameas with a panda image engraved. The owner offered to sell it for about $1,100(RMB 8,800), but quickly withdrew the offer. There were only about 7,000 Panda SLR cameras made briefly by Harbin Eletric Meters Factory(!) before it changed name to Peafowl. Is Peafowl a better translation than Peacock for that beautiful bird?
The early Panda has provision for a motor drive, but I never saw one for sale. It also has a mirror lock-up.

Cheer,

Zhang

 

 

 

Thanks Jay,

Should you feel the need for another Chinese TLR, just let me know. I still have a couple of dozens on the book shelf. I fixed one of the Shanghai 58-2s, and I think with a Russian or German lens, it could be a good user. I transplanted a gear from a dead Zorki, and now it is almost as smooth as a Leica.
Here is an image of the earliest Chinese 120 folder, the prototype of Shanghai 201. This is the very 1st version of pre-production Shanghai 201s. I have a 2nd version. They are identified by the shape of top housing.

Cheers,

Zhang

 

In January 2004 I traveled from Tashkent to Helsinki by train after completing my field research in Uzbekistan. In my luggage I had a copy of a 1954 Tajik-Russian dictionary and about five hundred copies of documents from the 1890-1915 period from the Uzbek State Archives. The originals, being from the Tsarist administration of Turkistan, all had a stamp "Top secret" in Russian, albeit in pre-1917 orthography. That was a fun journey, but they didn't even open my luggage; I guess they simply didn't expect anything interesting to be transported by train.

Philipp

 

 

Hi Philipp,

That is great, I assume those are valuable documents. One day a Russian library may wish to buy them back with big price. Now this thread begins to look like a sub-forum.

Kind regards,


Zhang

 

Call it anything but a Red flag. This is a vintage Chinese watch with a revolutionary brand name of Hong Qi(red flag), but the dial is a very far cry. I find it a little humorous, so I will share it with you. The other one is a Shanghai A623 date. That was Zhou Enlai's watch, and is one of the most collectable vintage Chinese watches. This model was not made in big numbers. Zhou wore this watch from 1962 until his death in 1976.

 

 

 

 

Hi Comrade Jay,

I will be waiting to see the results with your Epson RD-1 with those J-3,8, I-50,and others. Those digital rangefinders are still a bit too expensive at the moment. When I get one, I will want to try those Chinese 35mm cine optics.

Here is another interesting Chinese camera, a Shen Long MF 360 degree panorama. I think I saw it before in person, but the price was a bit high. The green one is a special purpose camera.

Cheers,

Zhang

I will try to count how many Chinese MF cameras in my house

 

 

See ...... http://www.novacon.com.br/odditycameras/shenlong.htm

 

 

Hi Jay,

Thanks. I'd like to see how a J-3 beat the Summarit. If only China could make a RD-1 type rangefinder for $500. I think it is possible.

The advantage of those cine optics is that you can find some real wide-angle lens at a good price, and I think they are better corrected for a smaller format.
35mm cine lenses are designed to cover roughly a half 35mm frame(16mmx22mm?) that is about the size of most current sensors. I don't think those 16mm cine optics could cover a digital sensor unless you can find a 2x teleconverter. But I am not very sure. Zeiss seem to have the same lenses for both 16mm and 35mm movie cameras.

I use a M42-m39 adaptor ring for a Fed or Zorki, then add a LTM -M adaptor, these can be used on a RD-1. These cine optics should have an Arri standard mount. All my 20mm, 28mm,35mm, 50mm cine optics have enough back focal length for a Leica type camera.

Cheers,

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Hi Zhang

I will send the link shortly to you by PM.

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You may have to start knocking on the Chinese companies which make inexpensive digital cameras. Show them how easy it is to stick a digital module behind a FED

Are the Chinese cine lenses you've adapted fitted with M42 mounts? Where do you get the M42-M39 adapter tube ( I assume it will be like a tube since the adaptor has to span the register differences between the two lens types)?

Jay

Thanks for the link. I will check.

The M42-M39 adaptor was made for adapting M42 lenses to a LTM camera. It is a custom made piece with correct registration. The Arri standard mount has a diameter of 40.8mm. So I put the cine lens into the tube of this adaptor, and use a little tape to fasten it. It is not ragefinder coupled, but a 20mm lens has a great DOF and the distance scale is accurately marked.

I have tried these cine optics on a DSLR for macro shots, and they are very sharp! I think they will perform well on a D-rangefinder. The 20mm is a T2(f1.8-1.9?) lens. One full stop faster than a 21mm F2.8 Leitz.

Kind Regards

Zhang,

Ever see a Shen Long in the north?

6x8, interchangeable back.

 

 

  

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